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The fact that Trump is so Non Politically correct is what is very appealing to me. He speaks his mind and is not afraid to say things that he thinks/feels, even if it offends others. It is somthing that has been significantly lacking in our political leaders in the last few political elections, and is a breath of fresh air in my opinion.

We have already dealt with a candidate who has had no experience for the last 8 years. Obama, a neighborhood organizer and 1st term senator, and he has done nothing but set our country back 50+ years in regards to race relations. Never before has a president set our country back so far in this regard until Obama. Now we have black people pitted against whites and cops, and the media will only report if it suits their needs, a la white cop shoots (unarmed black child), until the real truth comes out as a 17 year old 6 foot+, 200+ pound thug that was armed with a loaded gun attacked a police officer etc. type kind of stuff comes out.

When the president comes out before all the facts are in and states stuff like "The police acted stupidly", and "If I had a son, he'd look like Treyvon Martin", it just pits American's against themselves and does nothing to further race relations and in fact does the opposite.

It was either Trump, or a completely corrupt criminal who blamed her total incompetency of her handling of Bengazi Libya on a filmmaker of a youtube video, on the Bengazi attacks. She actually thought that people would/should believe her that the attacks were based on a youtube video and not the fact that it was the anniversary of 9/11 and Muslims wanted to kill Americans. She even had the filmmaker arrested and jailed. If I were him, I'd be suing her for all she's got.

"What difference at this point does it make?", Hillary said.

The difference in voting between her, a corrupt and evil candidate, and Trump, I say.

It's time we start thinking about putting our own country first and not about being politically correct or getting ripped off by foreign countries or by illegal aliens anymore.

USA first I say. And I wouldn't expect anything else for other countries to do and feel the same for themselves and their own countries way of life etc.



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... At my class reunion this year I found myself table mates with Gary Johnson. ( He is dating a woman whom I graduated with ) A very pleasant fellow and we all agreed we enjoyed him. A couple fellows did try to engage him in political discussions and he (Gary) turned them down. His excuse was the night was about his date, not him. I really didn't follow anything regarding Gary and only seen a couple news cast where he goofed up, but doesn't everyone.....



Wow, that's really cool. Thanks for sharing this. I agree with allot of Gary Johnson's ideas as politically, I consider myself mostly a libertarian on the political spectrum.

I'm surprised that Gary didn't do better in this recent election given the fact that so many folks didn't want to give their votes to either Hillary or Trump. Figured he'd have a higher percentage this time around.

Well I voted for Gary last election, but this time around it was Trump for me.

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Natural to my background, I'm almost an anti-libertarian. I have faith in heavy taxation, (relatively) wide government control, public schools and healthcare...
All this considered, I almost prefer Trump over Johnson.

Yet I was kind of sorry third parties failed to profit from this great opportunity. I don't mind new political options appearing, even when I don't agree with them. (How high I'm happy to see them get is another thing.)

As for Obama setting race relations back fifty years, I'd say his time has rather revealed that US never got as far on that as many have wanted to imagine.
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It's time we start thinking about putting our own country first and not about being politically correct or getting ripped off by foreign countries or by illegal aliens anymore.

USA first I say. And I wouldn't expect anything else for other countries to do and feel the same for themselves and their own countries way of life etc.

I'm still idealistic enough to think that there are others beside myself in world who don't just think "every man for himself", be that about person or country.

And... "getting ripped off by foreign countries"? Seriously? Coming from someone in the wealthiest nation in the world - by a helluva margin.

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Yes. So many companies have closed down locations in the US and sent their factories overseas for cheap labor, putting US employers out of work. Hardly anything is made in America anymore. Most products you find in stores are made in China and are of lesser quality. Cheap? Sure. But you get what you pay for and things don't last and are not quality made like they used to be. I'd rather pay more for US made quality products than sending profits abroad.

Couple that with the fact that the jobs that are in the U.S. are being outsourced to foreign workers who get paid less than US workers would, so its a double whammy.

Then topple that with undocumented people that cross the border illegally, or people that overstay their visas. They end up on welfare with food stamps sending their children to our public schools, and using our medical facilities all on the taxpayers dime, and all the while, they show up on our streets protesting for their "rights" and waiving their foreign flags all the while burning and spitting the flag of the USA, all the while, there is already a legal process to immigrating to this country, but the ones protesting do not seem to want to follow the process and expect something for nothing.



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Other countries are hardly to blame for that, nor is it them who most profit. That's corporations and their rich (American) owners - who then do pay taxes in US, as far as they can't avoid it. It's a small fraction of the price of products that's left where they are made. Of course there's transport costs, which is another story.

Plenty of people say they'd pay for more for domestic quality and to keep jobs home, but fact is not enough of them are voting with their wallets that way.


Illegal immigrants is such a unique problem for USA (for scale, being in a first world country and other aspects) that I'm not eager to say much because of my limited knowledge of the issue. But it is my general impression that in an economy size of USA, even all those millions of people are a very small factor. (And more of a political scapegoat.)

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Yeah I agree with that other countries are not totally to blame. Part of it is previous US administrations. Former Pres, Bill Clinton set our country on a path where US companies benefit more by sending their production, manufacturing and jobs abroad, all the while importing skilled labor from abroad to work within the US as cheap labor.

US Universities are filled to the brim with foreign students in STEM fields because they are willing to pay the tuition to universities to get their degree and end up taking jobs in STEM fields at a lower rate than US workers, and every year international student numbers increase.

Foreign students in STEM fields can obtain work authorization on their Student visas for up to 3 years after graduation, then switch to H1b visas for an additional 6 years of employment, and eventually move to permanent residency.

I'm not against legal immigration, I think it is a great thing, but I do wish our own country would prioritize our own citizens over citizens of other nations when it comes to putting people to work.

Then there is the problem of illegal immigration. Our legal immigrants follow a whole bunch of legal rules and regulations that are already in place. They pay their fees and do things by the book, but yet we have a whole slew of folks that either overstay their visas, or just outright come across the border and expect free handouts and aid at the taxpayers dime.

As a country, we need to secure our borders, build the wall, and eliminate the reasons that people come here illegally to prevent further illegal entries. Birthright Citizenship needs to go. It is an outdated rule that is in desperate need of an update.

There is already a legal way to gain admittance to our country. If a person comes to the US, then they should do it the legal way.

If someone breaks our laws by sneaking across the border, or overstaying their visa, then they are breaking US law and should be arrested, prosecuted, and deported.

Look to other Non-US countries and their policies on what they do to their own illegal immigrants. The penalties for illegal immigration in other non-US countries is enormous and penalty laden.


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While there's certain amount of things that can be within a country, there's also the simple economics of products becoming too much cheaper to make elsewhere and import. And blocking by force would be countered, leading to trade wars that negate the benefits.
The way I see it, this kind of globalization can't be fought, it must be adapted to and we - both Finland and US, as different cases as those are - need to concentrate on and support high technology and high quality industries and other areas where developing countries simply can't compete with us.


In Finland we have illegals the amount that scaled to population would be equivalent of about one million in US. Mostly they are asylum seekers who have been turned down.
There was just recently discussion about limiting their rights (including schooling of children), but it was quickly shot down as unconstitutional. Basically we for now stand that an illegal has same rights as any foreigner, aside possibility of deporting them (if their country of origin is safe and agrees to receive them).

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At least Austria dodged the bullet or, as our news put it, "first extreme right head of state in Europe since 1945".

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