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Kaunisto, would you care to comment on these:

]21 things to know before moving to Finland.

you should know before moving to Finland.

I've seen a couple more like these on FB this week. One of them when on about Finland being part of Scandanavia, I'm sure you said that wasn't true. emoticon
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First link:

1. true

2. suppose it's good idea, but people have survived here for millennia...

3. cookies are expensive? guess that's relative emoticon

4. true

5. almost always

6. october is pretty bad too

7-8. stereotype, but true

9. ...except when it's gang of young men. And when a foreigner comes to Finland, being invited to sauna isn't "a big deal", it's the first thing we do. after making you eat mämmi.

10. we're used to second-hand, true
"many buildings have also their own recycling room where you can get things for free and also leave objects you don’t need anymore for your fellow neighbours"
In this building, it's called "trash".

11. true

12. parody; hint of truth in there

13. I've never been to Lapland (well, since I was 1 or 2)

14. ...but that doesn't mean you can go pick carrots from someones farm like some Germans seems to assume

15. fur hasn't been that popular in this century

16. personally agree, but I'm sure it's not that bad

17. ...or he's very very drunk.

18. Hungarian is so far from Finnish it wouldn't help any

19. and being insanely stubborn, that's another key part of sisu

20. I think we have a very distinct spring; of course in recent years weather has been messed up. Spring starts when there's more green than white.

21. well we do have lot in common, more than we'd like to admit


Second link:

"People are happy"?

Customs: That picture is awesome.
Honesty: you can trust people better than most places, but common sense is advisable
The lack of Communication, burying the Emotions: Yep.
Shame: Modesty is the major virtue here.
Alcohol: Finns consume alcohol in total about average amount of EU countries, maybe even less. Pretty true, but that text makes it sound like being drunk = alcoholism.
The language: "When I arrived, I was told that Finnish language is not hard, only different." Who the hell said that!? Finnish is well-known to be difficult, except the pronounciation.
Employment: true
Discrimination: always one in the crowd...
Winter and Darkness: if you have trouble in Helsinki, you're in wrong country; anyway it's not 6 months of winter, 3-4 at most
Happiness: oh come on, our suicide stats still beat all the western Europe

Good article.



Scandinavia is such a relative concept. There's the geographic peninsula (=Sweden+Norway), ethnic area (add Denmark, perhaps Iceland) and historical/cultural area (OK, throw in Finland).
But we Finns really dislike being counted in that lot. Except maybe in context like "Scandinavian-style welfare society".

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Thanks Kaunisto.
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First ever terrorism case has been decided in Finnish court.
Apparently here you only get a suspended sentence for funding and supporting terrorism.
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Parliamentary election coming up next week. It's an unusual setting as everyone seems certain of winner. Centre Party leads all gallups (four years ago they had disastrous worst result in decades) and they are calm and quiet to not rock the winning boat.
At the same time the other parties are careful not to offend Centre, because they'll be choosing with who they want to form the new cabinet.
So in this campaign nobody's saying much anything, except the two who run things last four years, Social Democrats and Coalition are trying to blame each other for current government sucking. And of course the ranting idiot right wing populists aka True Finns keep telling how much money is being "thrown away" in foreign aid and loans to Greece and how "we should first fix things in our own country". Apparently by choosing from which countries we accept immigrants...

And those are the main options, each with about 20% support. Following up, Left Alliance and Green League in 5-10%, Swedish People's Party at steady 5% and one of the more interesting questions this time is, how low will go Christian Democrats?

And then there's the "no chance" freak shows, Pirate Party, Communists etc.
Always fun to watch which of those has biggest support.

Realistic options for next cabinet (IMO):
1. Centre-SDP, plus Green and/or Left plus Swedish
2. Centre-Coalition(right), Swedish, Christian (if all those parties do very well; I doubt that)
3. Centre-True Finns, Swedish, Christian (same as 2. with extra "oh god please no")
4. Centre-SDP-Coalition (actually not realistic, they won't do it, but I'd kind of like to see that happen)
5. Centre can't agree with any majority combination, nobody wants to work with True Finns and we'll have same situation as last time, SDP-Coalition with all minor parties for backup (that would be very unpopular result, as it would basically ignore this election)
6. True Finns are calling out for a government of "big three" (like 4.) because that's almost the only kind they have any chance to be in; if they'd be clear second and could agree with Centre, SDP and Coalition would have to compete which is the third (I refuse to believe my people would be stupid enough to have this result... but it wasn't far last time)

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emoticon ...oh crap. Results are not particularly good. emoticon

Centre Party won as expected and none of the parties went very far from gallups, but mostly to wrong directions for my taste.

Full results and some analysis coming later...

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emoticon emoticon
Parliamentary election result:

(votes, % of votes, seats, change in seats)

Centre Party 625,687 [sign in to see URL] 49 +14 (though expected, a major victory)
National Coalition Party 539,615 [sign in to see URL] 37 –7 (mediocre result in general, just looks bad with last election victory)
Finns Party 523,045 [sign in to see URL] 38 –1 (with second most seats, a definite victory)
Social Democratic Party 489,705 [sign in to see URL] 34 –8 (the major loser)
Green League 252,872 [sign in to see URL] 15 +5 (victory, though not as big in votes as in seats; in last election they barely missed several seats)
Left Alliance 211,615 [sign in to see URL] 12 –2 (minor loss, they do worse every time...)
Swedish People's Party of Finland 144,520 [sign in to see URL] 9 0 (no surprises there)
Christian Democrats 105,022 [sign in to see URL] 5 –1 (smaller loss than I expected)

(Åland Coalition 10,903 [sign in to see URL] 1 0, Ahvenanmaa aka Åland isles have some autonomy and their own electoral district with 1 seat)

Other parties, not in parliament:
(votes, % of votes)

Pirate Party 25,105 [sign in to see URL]
Independence Party 13,715 [sign in to see URL]
Communist Party 7,609 [sign in to see URL]
Change 2011 7,434 [sign in to see URL]
Communist Workers' Party – For Peace and Socialism 1,092 [sign in to see URL]
Workers Party 1,045 [sign in to see URL]
For the Poor 610 [sign in to see URL]


Turnout: [sign in to see URL]%


The two largest parties (in seats), Centre and Finns, are the two opposition parties. All others were in previous government, except Greens and Left abandoned the sinking ship last year.


My personal preference of parties, from most to lest favorable: SDP, Green, Centre, Coalition, LA, SPP, Christian, (Pirate, Communist,) Finns(, Independence)

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quote:

6. True Finns are calling out for a government of "big three" (like 4.) because that's almost the only kind they have any chance to be in; if they'd be clear second and could agree with Centre, SDP and Coalition would have to compete which is the third (I refuse to believe my people would be stupid enough to have this result... but it wasn't far last time)


And that's what is happening now emoticon

We're about to have Centre-Finns-Coalition government. We've had center-right ones now and then, but this is particularly bad.

Unusual aspects:
- first time in 40 years Swedish People's Party isn't in cabinet (it's been 6-7th largest party, agreeing with anyone as long a legal status of Swedish language isn't changed)
- first time True Finns aka Finns aka ranting idiots are getting any real power... god help us
- first time since WWII that government is formed by three largest parties (until now it's been standard that two of old big three rule and the third is the main opposition; rise of the Finns as fourth major party messed that up)

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]Charlie Hebdo has noticed rise of True Finns
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The French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has focused an ironic eye on the nationalist Finns Party and its rise to the ranks of government in its latest issue. The paper casts the populist party as flogging a potent cocktail of "mock-socialism", euroscepticism and xenophobia, and notes that it's now part of a government rolling out biting austerity cuts.


Finnish people like rest of the world noticing us and most enjoy the party being mocked, but this is pretty bad PR for Finland.

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In near future are various 500th anniversaries of the Protestant Reformation.
For one or other reason, Finnish is one of the very few languages that have a different name for it than a variant of "reformation". The word Uskonpuhdistus (by which for example the Finnish Wikipedia page is) literally translates "cleansing of the faith".
I suppose that's what we've called it for centuries.

But now leaders of Church of Finland have decided that's not PC (or should we say RC). Since the name might offend Catholics, they've ordered it to be called "reformaatio" here too.
(To be fair, all my textbooks - and Wikipedia - have mentioned that as optional name for it.)

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