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While our own Finns Party has satisfyingly fallen lately, Sweden's populist right Sweden Democrats just polled higher than ever, being second most popular party at the moment.
I don't know when there'll be elections, but this is somewhat disturbing. Fortunately all other parties systematically refuse to work with them, rather breaking the traditional two block system than sharing any power with SD.

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In a paper (I weekly read) there's a column of "headlines 40 years ago".

Apparently back then, the immigration situation in Sweden had become "intolerable". There were comments from government that were much more harsh than anything we hear today.

So where did that flood of immigrants come from back then?

Finland.

It was recently estimated that Finnish immigrants, their children and grandchildren make almost tenth of Sweden's population today.

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While our own Finns Party has satisfyingly fallen lately, Sweden's populist right Sweden Democrats just polled higher than ever, being second most popular party at the moment.
I don't know when there'll be elections, but this is somewhat disturbing. Fortunately all other parties systematically refuse to work with them, rather breaking the traditional two block system than sharing any power with SD.

A year later, the news is exactly the same.

But with 3 months to elections, this predicts difficult times. IF SD is able to get number of seats somewhat relative to their current support in polls, (majority) government can only be achieved by:
1. winning block (left or right) + the major party of the other block
2. winning block + all but the major party of the other block
3. one of the blocks + SD

The first option would no doubt be very unpopular and considered outrageous.
The third is what both blocks and majority of people want to avoid at all costs.
The second is... "well, there's not much else we can do" option.

Fourth possibility is a minority government, forced to cooperate with opposition all the time. Difficult, but not really worse than others.

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Widest forest fires in recorded history going on there.

Finland has had fortunately little despite the record hot and dry July.

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Election night, this'll be interesting...

(read second post above)
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Fourth possibility is a minority government, forced to cooperate with opposition all the time. Difficult, but not really worse than others.

Have to correct myself about that.
Current government (social democrats/greens) has been a minority government and survived reasonably well, but that may make another harder rather than easier option, especially as left block seems to be narrowly winning right (thanks to far-right supporting Sweden Democrats).

A producer of Swedish public broadcasting had to resign for making anti-SD comments related TV debate where the party's leader said (among other things) that immigrants cannot get jobs because they are not Swedish and don't fit into the society. Which is enough for a good outrage in Sweden, but people arranging debates can't take sides.

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Final results: (seats/change from 2014)


Social Democrat 100/-13
Left 28/+7
Green 16/-9

Left block ("Red-Greens") total: 144/-15

Moderate 70/-14
Centre 31/+9
Christian Democrats 22/+6
Liberal 20/+1

Right block ("The Alliance") total: 143/+2

Sweden Democrats 62/+13


The change to previous isn't dramatic, but the problematic situation continues.
Either the two blocks have to co-operate in some way or there'll be another minority government and SD are swearing to take it down at first chance, demanding they are given influence.
Also it's unclear who should form the government as the current (Social Democrats + Green) took clear loss, but social democrats are still biggest party and left block has one seat more than right.

Either way, SD holding balance of power - and everyone refusing to work with them - the political landscape of Sweden is changing.



Edit: correction on final result, 1 seat to SD instead of Centre

Edit 2: cancel the previous edit, with what hopefully is the absolute final result

Edit 3: ...and I missed change of one seat from Social Democrats to Greens

Edit 4: ...and one from Christian Democrats to Liberals. Now this should be the absolute final result.

Last edited by Kaunisto, Sep/16/2018, 13:00


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It's all so confusing ... politics the world over is changing.

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What was it that Connery's character says in end of Hunt for Red October...

"A little revolution now and then is a healthy thing, don't you think?"

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