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About piracy...


Like Runboard in general, this board does not condone or promote violating copyrights. However...

(The following is purely hypothetical, speculation and/or fiction. I do not admit possession or use of any software that I do not have legal right to.)

I may - or may not - have tens or hundreds or thousands pirated games. (I do deny having tens of thousands of them... assuming "tens of thousands" means "more than twenty thousand", not "more than ten thousand".) Should a person such as myself play a game... few games... crapload of games illegally, it would be difficult not to discuss them here. Especially systems and games that have never been published outside Japan and can only be played in English as modified copies that may be illegal even if you had the original product.

Since there is no way to tell if one has played legally a game he/she posts about - except circumstantial evidence, but it wouldn't be fair to judge anyone on that alone - it cannot be helped that here may occur references to gaming experiences that have resulted from copyright violations.

So, in theory, we can speculate that in future even I myself might post comments on games I have an illegal copy of, should I ever have any.




Now, entirely unrelated to the above...

I've been lately having fun with early 80's console Colecovision. For those unfamiliar with it, it was made by Coleco... COnnecticut LEather COmpany. Besides the great classics like Boulder Dash or Dig Dug, I'm enjoying a strategy/puzzle game Campaign '84. My first attempt wasn't too successful - but I still did lot better than Mondale!

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I love Dig-Dug! I used to play that thing for hours on the Atari 5200. Unfortunatly the 5200 controllers broke and the power switch button was on the controllers. Whoever thought of that stupid idea needs to be shot. So the whole system got salvation armied. This was way before we had internet access and long before people could get replacement stuff off of Ebay otherwise I would have kept the thing. The awesome thing about that game is that you could keep continuing and further progressing with more flowers sprouting up at the top of the ground.

Also about software piracy, I think allot of it is just a bunch of paranoia and pushback from siteowners who worry about copyright infringements and such. The majority of games that I play are games that I have previously bought and in some cases multiple times like in the case of allot of SSI Gold Box games. I bought Curse of the Azure Bonds for the Apple II system, then again when the DOS release came out along with allot of the other gold box games. I also have Curse and others on the Forgotten Realms Archives collection CD's. There are so many old games that are no longer being sold and in most cases even if they are being sold, it is by third party re-sellers whose profits from the game in no way whatsoever go towards the original programmers/makers of the game so I don't worry too much about that stuff.

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I didn't know there were goldbox games on Apple II.

My cousins had Videopac aka Odyssey2 and when one of its controllers broke we'd play on its wires: 6 wires, touch one to others for up, down, left, right, fire.

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Some of the early gold box games were released on Apple ][. I only had Curse of the Azure Bonds for it, but they released Pool of Radiance and Champions of Krynn also. The graphics were horrid compared to the other systems releases. The only colors you got were black, white, pink, blue and green and it really strained the eyes to play the game for any extended period. Plus it was lots of disk swapping.
http://www.virtualapple.org/ appears to have PoR and CoK, though I woudn't recommend playing the apple ][ version for the reasons listed above.

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Beat'em-ups (Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat etc.) have never been my genre. I'm not that hardcore player to find/learn special moves, combos and fatalities. And against another player it's in most games just a matter of sportsmanship; there's always some cheap move, most often low kick or such. ("Sweep the leg.")

That said, I have done a lot of button bashing. I have two particular favorites:


One Must Fall 2097 is an older PC game (available freeware!) that has couple special features. Firstly the fighters are robots that have a human controlling them, so you choose the person AND a robot for him/her, giving 10X10 options. OK the people mostly just give you different storyline, but it's a nice twist. Another fun detail are enviromental damage you have to dodge or push opponent into: spikes, aerial assault... There's only few different stages, but it's still fun to throw the other bot into electric cage.
What sets OMF2097 apart from other games of it's era is the great career mode that gives reason to fight match after another while in most games you're done once you've beaten the tournament in top difficulty. This mode has you also buying new robots and parts for them, giving constantly changing experience.
The playability is the sort that I prefer in beat'em-ups: all about timing. In many games when you jump kick or charge opponent, there's nothing to do but hope he doesn't block and counter. In OMF you move/jump forward and then at the right moment do your strike... unless he hit you first. I recall Virtua Fighter games work like this.
Of playability, there's one more unusual feature. OMF has only two buttons (besides directions of course), punch and kick. But even without ridiculously long button combinations, the mechanics works quite well.


My other favorite is the Darkstalkers series. Originating to coin-ops, they are from Street Fighter maker Capcom and represent the classic Japanese arcade game. There's 3-5 games, depending how you count them:

Darkstalkers: The Night Warriors (Vampire in Japan)
Night Warriors - Darkstalkers' Revenge (Vampire Hunter in Japan) (officially concidered a remake of the first game)
Vampire Savior - The Lord of the Vampire (some versions called Darkstalkers 3)
Vampire Hunter 2 & Vampire Savior 2 (two enhanced remakes or Vampire Savior; VH2 and VS2 are same game with different characters)

The fighters are vampire, (martial artist) werewolf, Frankenstein style monster, catwoman, bigfoot and various other monsters and supernatural beings, most famous of them the iconic succubus Morrigan. The idea of using such characters is corny, but they have some strange charm. They also give the games interesting storylines, at best in VS meaning some characters have different final opponents.
I'm certain in hands of hardcore masters any DS game would be a tactical game of unblockable combos and carefully chosen and timed special moves, but among us mere mortals it's near-random button bashing fun. Lots of fun.


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It's almost impossible to download pirated games these days. I can't be bothered to fight with torrents and I feel that if someone has gone to the trouble to create something, the least I can do is give them financial support for it. So I buy everything I download, unless it's specifically a "free download" such as Amazon's free ebook website that promotes new writers.

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That depends how old games one talks about. Take the games available to Wii virtual console: couple bucks a piece they add up and they're quick and easy to pirate, on any internet. And playing on emulator has advantages, saving, cheats etc.

...I would imagine.

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I don't know kaunisto, it's a long time since I tried downloading something without paying for it. If I do, it's merely to test it, then I pay for the real thing once the test period runs out, unless I don't want it, then I dump it.
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Crush! Deluxe is a scifi bloodsport strategy game. It has the most important quality of a good turnbased strategy: right ratio of luck and tactics. And also Crush! has one simple great idea: having three teams in game.
Your players, nine at most, chosen from 8 species, are teleported to field (there's 20 different) where they try to find the ball, take it to one of four goals and preferably tackle to death all players of other teams.
There's great variety of skills players can learn with experience points gained in games. You can also buy cheat items. In league mode you can play infinite seasons of 12 team series where 9 play playoffs. But this league has budget limit and if your men get too good (4-6 seasons) you may not have money for full team of 9; having less than 7 men is huge disadvantage and one must remember players get injured and die.
But you'd hate to give up a great player who took you to several championships...

I'm not sure if this 90's PC game is still available in any legal way (except demo), but...
*cough*google*cough*

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Yep. that is certainly abandonware now. I like the turn based aspect of it, but not so much the sport part. I'm mostly a dungeon crawler type person. But I did enjoy Winter+Summer Games and California games for the c64.

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