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Kaunisto, I learned my very first word in Finnish today.

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A christmas movie... Finnish style:

]Rare Exports

You might find from youtube 2003 short movie Rare Exports Inc. by same people on which this loosely based. Do try, it's awesome.

Warning: may contain foul language, violence and more. Not for people who believe in Santa.
On the other hand if you don't, that short may make you wonder if that Santa
at mall might actually be a genuine Finnish father christmas...

edit: just noticed the short and it's sequel are the on the site

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It looks good Kaunisto. I'll look out for it and download it to watch.
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Time for a final and profound comment on Max Payne. Yesterday I finished MP2 (on easy level/first time). They are, as I keep pointing out, the finest works of Finnish gaming industry ever - except that I haven't yet played Alan Wake from the same people.

Despite my wide experience in other genres, I haven't played many third-person shooters/action-adventures. Frankly I'm not really hardcore gamer; I don't have patience to learn very difficult games or ones very different from what I've played before.
So when I say Max Payne was a fitting game for me, I'm admitting it's reasonably easy (compared to "how games used to be when I was young"). But these aren't the kind of games you play to be helluva good at it; Max Paynes are gaming as a form of storytelling, you play them to live through Max's film noir vendetta. Of course there's couple more difficulty levels if you want the challenge, but I was rather disappointed on playing MP1 in middle difficulty; it was just the same with more quicksaving and loading and in no way added to the experience.

I wont explain you exactly what the game is like. You can just find it in youtube. Instead I'll tell what's the difference between games 1 and 2.
If you are going to buy one, get the first. They're not very different in gameplay or graphics, but first is better balanced and has slightly more solid story (not to mention that you'll have hard time following 2 if you haven't played 1). MP1 has better balance on weapons - excellent in fact - and mostly more even difficulty than MP2, except for couple huge battles.
One problem in both games is that entering a room, shooting everyone in there and repeating this hundred times gets... not quite boring, but tiresome. In MP1 this was fixed with (too) few special levels, including the infamous dream levels (I didn't know I bought a platformer). Most things wrong in MP2 are because it's a sequel, and the makers have tried fix problems of first game. So second has various special sub-/levels like keeping someone alive, running through fire/explosions (better than the one level in MP1) and you even get to play a different character in couple points. Dream episodes are still there, but without that stupid platforming thingie they're quite nice, even though there's not actually much to play in them.

In MP2 they have absolutely wanted to stuff all the old places and things and people into the game and while inside jokes are fun (among all the other dark humor of the games), it's too obvious this is a sequel. The plot is too forced and while MP1 was a classic epic film noir story of desperate escape and vengeance, in MP2 the mysteries remain too deep for half of the game.

Besides fire and dream sequences, Max Payne 2 has one considerable improvement on first: occasionally you'll have sidekicks. And whether it's a crazy neighbor, the femme fatale of the story or few mobsters thinking you're on their side, they're cool, fun and sometimes even useful.
Biggest failiar in MP2 is that it's completely linear, 99% of rooms/areas in the game have two doors, you come in from one and continue further through the other (which also means the five other doors in corridors are always locked). Maybe I've just forgotten (it's over a year since I played MP1) or maybe it was disguised better, but I think first game wasn't this bad on the particular issue.

Max Payne 2 is a great game and a worthy sequel, but indeed a sequel. On first the makers had set out to make a game; on second it's clear they were making a Max Payne game. MP2 almost seems like it was designed as expansion disc for the original. That's not insult nor praise to it... merely a fact and warning that you really want to play MP1 first.


I have also played Game Boy Advance version (emulated of course, as is my custom) and that is also admirable. It follows (inevitably edited) the storyline and level design of original game, but gameplay has been changed to what the platform can handle - again see for yourself in youtube.
Max Payne is surely one of the best GBA games of it's genre and simply exemplary on how to translate a PC/main console game to handheld/mobile platform.

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I don't think I could spend all day playing a computer game. I'd get terribly bored.
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In my experience sequels in any form of media tend to be a failure if only because they fail to match the originality of the first one. This is due to the fact that the original version has never been seen before, so it captures the attention of the audience. The sequel however is stuck between it being a copy of the original with a few changes or to be completely different to enable originality. If it's the former it can become boring as it won't be new and exciting, if it's the latter it can lose its audience as it would be something they're not expecting, I would say that this is whenever a band tries to do something new with an album their audience often complains.

How many games do you get through in a month Kaunisto? Max Payne is supposedly being released soon, would you give that a go if ever given the opportunity?
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The only sequels I enjoy are those where the sequel is a continuation of the original story, like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and so on. When they are merely a money-making idea based on the success of the first thing, then they, usually, are bad.
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I agree, if the sequels are already planned out as you say then they are good. LOTR for example would be too big for one film, so a trilogy was necessary. It's the 'ordinary' films that suffer from poor sequels. The follow ons to Jaws and Alien never came close the quality of the original.
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I actually kind of like Alien 3&4, 2 is overrated.

I'm rather pessimistic on Max 3... because it's done by totally different (non-Finnish) people. Besides MP2 closed the story nicely, so I'm not sure it was a good idea to make another sequel.

How many games... let's see. So far this year I've played Driver 1, Max Payne 2, Pokemon Ruby, a game of Civilization 2 and plenty of an old favourite Crush! Deluxe. Oh and Super Mario Bros. on emulator (actually tried out quickly hundreds of Nes games from my collection).
There's games and games; some you finish in days, some in weeks and biggest RPGs... I've left Phantasy Star Online as a long time project as it takes some 150 hours and is very repetitive.


Once more with a feeling... music from Max Payne 2:


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I just watched a praised documentary where in context of sauna, Finnish men open their hearts on hardest things in life.

]This happened to be first review I came up with quick googling...

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